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Terms of Use

1. Registration

By registering with BeWelcome and creating your profile, you agree to provide accurate, up-to-date and complete information about yourself. You further agree that you will ensure that this information is kept accurate and up to date at all times. This is especially important with respect to your email address, since that is the primary way in which we will communicate with you about your account. If you fail to follow this rule, we reserve the right to edit, close and/or delete your account and profile and thereby remove any information and prevent you from using the site. As part of the registration process, you will designate a password, subject to our password security requirements. It is your responsibility to keep this password confidential. If you find out that your password or account is being used by someone without your consent, or you discover any other breach of security, you agree to notify us promptly without delay.

2. Privacy

We are committed to safeguarding your privacy. Thus we understand your wish and respect your right to privacy and personal information. However, by submitting your photograph and any other personal information, you allow any member of BeWelcome to view and use this information. If you do not wish to keep your personal picture or information private vis-à-vis other members of BeWelcome, you shall choose to hide it accordingly. We reserve the right to collect further personal information from you that we do not post on BeWelcome. Under normal circumstances we will not transfer your personal information to unaffiliated third parties without your consent. However, we reserve the right to transfer such information without your consent in the following cases: to prevent an emergency, to protect or enforce our legal rights, to protect or enforce legal rights of a third party or in pursuance to a court order or subpoena or as otherwise required or permitted by law. This also applies to messages you send through BeWelcome. While these messages are normally only read by respective senders and addressees, you agree to disclose those messages to volunteers for spam monitoring. BeVolunteer may use the email address you provided upon registration in order to send you regular newsletters, which, however, you can unsubscribe from. You further agree to your visits of other members profiles being logged and displayed to them or logged for administrative or technical purposes.

3. Liability

We offer a platform for registered members to arrange hospitality exchange and to use tools to plan and record their travels. Even though we hope to meet your requirements, we do not warrant any information provided on the site to be accurate and reliable at any relevant time, to meet your expectations, to offer error-free, uninterrupted and fast service. We shall not be responsible or liable in case of a dispute with one of our members. You thus exempt us herewith from any claims or liabilities whatsoever arising from or in connection with our service. This Service is provided by BeWelcome and BeVolunteer, the organization behind BeWelcome (registrated in France at 'la préfecture de Rennes' with the number W3530003536) on an "AS-IS" and "AS AVAILABLE" basis and BeVolunteer reserves the right to modify, suspend or discontinue the Service, in its sole discretion, at any time and without notice. You agree that BeVolunteer is not and will not be liable to you for any modification, suspension or discontinuance of the Service.

4. General Conduct

You agree that you shall not

  • (a) interfere with or disrupt (or attempt to interfere with or disrupt) this Service or servers, through, including, but not limited to, the use of viruses, cancel bots, Trojan horses, harmful code, flood pings, denial-of-service attacks, packet or IP spoofing, forged routing or electronic mail address information or similar methods or technology
  • (b) provide any information to BeWelcome that is false or misleading, that would otherwise hide your identity or that you do not have the right to disclose
  • (c) violate any applicable law or regulation. Since BeVolunteer (the legal organization behind BeWelcome) is registrated in France at 'la préfecture de Rennes' (number W3530003536), French law is applicable
  • (d) violate the rights of any third party, including, but not limited to, intellectual property, privacy, publicity or contractual rights
  • (e) collect, store or abuse any information you obtain through our Service including any information about any other user for any unauthorized purposes
  • (f) use our Services to transmit, distribute, post or submit any information concerning any other person or entity, including, but not limited to, personal contact information or credit, debit, calling card or account numbers
  • (g) molest, "stalk" or harass any other user of our Services
  • (h) use our Services for any commercial purpose especially in connection with the distribution of unsolicited commercial email ("Spam") or advertisements
  • (i) assist any third party in doing any of the foregoing

You agree to defend, indemnify, and hold harmless BeWelcome and BeVolunteer, its directors and volunteers, from and against any claims, liabilities, damages, losses, and expenses, including, but not limited to, reasonable legal and expert fees, arising out of or in any way connected with your access to or use of the Services, or your violation of these Terms.

5. Content

You are responsible for all the Content you upload, download, and otherwise copy, distribute and display using the Service. You must have the legal right to copy, distribute and display all parts of any content that you upload, download and otherwise copy, distribute and display. Content provided to you by others, or made available through websites, magazines, books and other sources, may be protected by copyright and should not be uploaded, downloaded, or otherwise copied, distributed or displayed without the consent of the copyright owner or as otherwise permitted by law.

You agree that you shall not post or submit any content that

  • (a) is libelous
  • (b) contains nudity, pornography, pedophile or sexually explicit content
  • (c) is in any way discriminating against ethnic, racial, sexual or religious groups by stereotypical depiction or otherwise
  • (d) contains offensive language or images
  • (e) glorifies violence and the use of drugs or characterize either as acceptable or desirable

6. General

These Terms constitute the entire agreement between BeWelcome and the legal organization behind it, BeVolunteer, and you with respect to your use of the Service. BeWelcome's or BeVolunteer's failure to enforce any right or provision in these Terms shall not constitute a waiver of such right or provision. If a court should find that one or more provisions contained in these Terms is invalid, you agree that the remainder of the Terms shall be enforceable. These Terms shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of France. Any disputes arising under or in connection with these Terms shall be subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of France. BeVolunteer reserves the right to amend these terms as seen appropriate without prior notice.

Member rights and responsibilities

1. Registration

By registering with BeWelcome and creating your profile, you agree to provide accurate, up-to-date and complete information about yourself. You further agree that you will ensure that this information is kept accurate and up to date at all times. This is especially important with respect to your email address, since that is the primary way in which we will communicate with you about your account. If you fail to follow this rule, we reserve the right to edit, close and/or delete your account and profile and thereby remove any information and prevent you from using the site. As part of the registration process, you will designate a password, subject to our password security requirements. It is your responsibility to keep this password confidential. If you find out that your password or account is being used by someone without your consent, or you discover any other breach of security, you agree to notify us promptly without delay.

2. Privacy

We are committed to safeguarding your privacy. Thus we understand your wish and respect your right to privacy and personal information. However, by submitting your photograph and any other personal information, you allow any member of BeWelcome to view and use this information. If you do not wish to keep your personal picture or information private vis-à-vis other members of BeWelcome, you shall choose to hide it accordingly. We reserve the right to collect further personal information from you that we do not post on BeWelcome. Under normal circumstances we will not transfer your personal information to unaffiliated third parties without your consent. However, we reserve the right to transfer such information without your consent in the following cases: to prevent an emergency, to protect or enforce our legal rights, to protect or enforce legal rights of a third party or in pursuance to a court order or subpoena or as otherwise required or permitted by law. This also applies to messages you send through BeWelcome. While these messages are normally only read by respective senders and addressees, you agree to disclose those messages to volunteers for spam monitoring. BeVolunteer may use the email address you provided upon registration in order to send you regular newsletters, which, however, you can unsubscribe from. You further agree to your visits of other members profiles being logged and displayed to them or logged for administrative or technical purposes.

3. Liability

We offer a platform for registered members to arrange hospitality exchange and to use tools to plan and record their travels. Even though we hope to meet your requirements, we do not warrant any information provided on the site to be accurate and reliable at any relevant time, to meet your expectations, to offer error-free, uninterrupted and fast service. We shall not be responsible or liable in case of a dispute with one of our members. You thus exempt us herewith from any claims or liabilities whatsoever arising from or in connection with our service. This Service is provided by BeWelcome and BeVolunteer, the organization behind BeWelcome (registrated in France at 'la préfecture de Rennes' with the number W3530003536) on an "AS-IS" and "AS AVAILABLE" basis and BeVolunteer reserves the right to modify, suspend or discontinue the Service, in its sole discretion, at any time and without notice. You agree that BeVolunteer is not and will not be liable to you for any modification, suspension or discontinuance of the Service.

4. General Conduct

You agree that you shall not

  • (a) interfere with or disrupt (or attempt to interfere with or disrupt) this Service or servers, through, including, but not limited to, the use of viruses, cancel bots, Trojan horses, harmful code, flood pings, denial-of-service attacks, packet or IP spoofing, forged routing or electronic mail address information or similar methods or technology
  • (b) provide any information to BeWelcome that is false or misleading, that would otherwise hide your identity or that you do not have the right to disclose
  • (c) violate any applicable law or regulation. Since BeVolunteer (the legal organization behind BeWelcome) is registrated in France at 'la préfecture de Rennes' (number W3530003536), French law is applicable
  • (d) violate the rights of any third party, including, but not limited to, intellectual property, privacy, publicity or contractual rights
  • (e) collect, store or abuse any information you obtain through our Service including any information about any other user for any unauthorized purposes
  • (f) use our Services to transmit, distribute, post or submit any information concerning any other person or entity, including, but not limited to, personal contact information or credit, debit, calling card or account numbers
  • (g) molest, "stalk" or harass any other user of our Services
  • (h) use our Services for any commercial purpose especially in connection with the distribution of unsolicited commercial email ("Spam") or advertisements
  • (i) assist any third party in doing any of the foregoing

You agree to defend, indemnify, and hold harmless BeWelcome and BeVolunteer, its directors and volunteers, from and against any claims, liabilities, damages, losses, and expenses, including, but not limited to, reasonable legal and expert fees, arising out of or in any way connected with your access to or use of the Services, or your violation of these Terms.

5. Content

You are responsible for all the Content you upload, download, and otherwise copy, distribute and display using the Service. You must have the legal right to copy, distribute and display all parts of any content that you upload, download and otherwise copy, distribute and display. Content provided to you by others, or made available through websites, magazines, books and other sources, may be protected by copyright and should not be uploaded, downloaded, or otherwise copied, distributed or displayed without the consent of the copyright owner or as otherwise permitted by law.

You agree that you shall not post or submit any content that

  • (a) is libelous
  • (b) contains nudity, pornography, pedophile or sexually explicit content
  • (c) is in any way discriminating against ethnic, racial, sexual or religious groups by stereotypical depiction or otherwise
  • (d) contains offensive language or images
  • (e) glorifies violence and the use of drugs or characterize either as acceptable or desirable

6. General

These Terms constitute the entire agreement between BeWelcome and the legal organization behind it, BeVolunteer, and you with respect to your use of the Service. BeWelcome's or BeVolunteer's failure to enforce any right or provision in these Terms shall not constitute a waiver of such right or provision. If a court should find that one or more provisions contained in these Terms is invalid, you agree that the remainder of the Terms shall be enforceable. These Terms shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of France. Any disputes arising under or in connection with these Terms shall be subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of France. BeVolunteer reserves the right to amend these terms as seen appropriate without prior notice.

General comments

  • Call it Members' rights and responsibilities claudiaab - Sat, 13 Oct 12 14:52:01 +0200
  • Suggestion: We should try to speak normal english as much as possible. Legalese sucks. sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 00:16:39 +0200
    • I find this suggestion extremely important and totally support it. These terms should be read by every member and should therefore be written in ordinary language, not in legalese. I think in terms of phrasing Facebook has done a pretty good job, at least in parts of their terms, and could be used as a reference (not regarding its contents, just the phrasing!). sitatara - Mon, 01 Oct 12 17:42:51 +0200
    • +1 matthias - Mon, 01 Oct 12 20:13:33 +0200
  • Can't we merge 5. content and 4. General Conduct? sitarane - Sun, 30 Sep 12 12:51:50 +0200
  • The word "service"/"services" is often written with a capital "S". Why? - sitatara - Thu, 18 Jul 13 14:35:05 +0200

Comments about 1. Registration

  • "If you find out that your password or account is being used by someone without your consent, or you discover any other breach of security, you agree to notify us promptly without delay": Really? And if you don't we can sue you? I don't see how this is necessary. KIS KIS. Removal. Or at least something more like: "If you find out that your password or account is being used by someone without your consent, you agree to change that password asap. If you discover any other breach of security, be kind enough to notify us asap." sitarane - Thu, 27 Sep 12 23:04:51 +0200
  • In this section, we need to add that the minimum age for registration is 18. - sitatara - Thu, 18 Jul 13 13:58:40 +0200

Comments about 2. Privacy

  • " We reserve the right to collect further personal information from you that we do not post on BeWelcome" -Should't this be more specific? matthias - Mon, 24 Sep 12 20:08:31 +0200
    • How 'bout: Some of the information we collect are not meant for display (private stuff such as your email address), but you must agree to let us have it anyway.'' sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 00:16:39 +0200
  • "While these messages are normally only read by respective senders and addressees, you agree to disclose those messages to volunteers for spam monitoring" -I think this needs more clarifiication matthias - Mon, 24 Sep 12 20:08:31 +0200
  • What does "We reserve the right to collect further personal information from you that we do not post on BeWelcome" exactly mean?" What do you exactly consider as "an emergency"? Can you guarantee that none of our data of any kind will be sold to a third part and that all of them remain our private property ? That no commercial use of any kind will be made of our activities, our involvement etc, whether directly or indirectly ? Many people coming on BW now escape from Couchsurfing for these reasons, these points are very important. We don't want to face again the same situation. Thank you in advance for your precise answers :)
  • althought very technical i would add this provision after "spam monitoring" : "People requiring private messaging can choose to REPLY asking the message to be private. such messages will be clearly marked." that is first message in a contact is always; if the sender do not ask explicitely to receive only monitorable messages _and_ the replier ask that the reply be private further messages on the thread would be only sent to the e-mail of the addressee and no longer arechived. leoalone - Wed, 26 Sep 12 13:16:08 +0200
    • Cannot be ready for the GA. Possible later addition. sitarane - Mon, 08 Oct 12 12:23:59 +0200
  • Thus we understand your wish and respect your right to privacy and personal information. Patronizing. sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 00:16:39 +0200
  • If you do not wish to keep your personal picture or information private vis-a-vis other members of BeWelcome, you shall choose to hide it accordingly. Self-contradicting. sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 00:16:39 +0200
    • I believe this should read "If you wish to keep your personal picture or information private, you shall not upload it to your profile or remove it." or: "Only upload such content to your profile which you want to be seen by other users (members, or members and visitors, depending on your privacy settings) polyglot Sun, 10 Feb 13 22:16:39
  • Under normal circumstances we will not transfer your personal information to unaffiliated third parties without your consent. However, we reserve the right to transfer such information without your consent in the following cases: to prevent an emergency, to protect or enforce our legal rights, to protect or enforce legal rights of a third party or in pursuance to a court order or subpoena or as otherwise required or permitted by law. Way too long-winded. Suggestion: We will never transfer your personal information to unaffiliated third parties without your consent, unless required by the law. sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 00:16:39 +0200
  • This also applies to messages you send through BeWelcome. While these messages are normally only read by respective senders and addressees, you agree to disclose those messages to volunteers for spam monitoring. > The messages that you send through BeWelcome to another member are only readable by this member. However, you must understand that some of our volunteers have access to everything on the website except passwords. This is necessary for them to make the website work. To get access to that level, those volunteers have signed a privacy agreement, that forbids them to disclose anything they might come accross. They might, however, intentionally look at specific messages, for example when someone reports an abuse or a spam. You must agree to that, it is essential for us to remove spammers. Longer, but I'd feel safer after reading the later than the former. Did I forget some provision? sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 00:16:39 +0200
  • BeVolunteer may use the email address you provided upon registration in order to send you regular newsletters, which, however, you can unsubscribe from. Simplify: ''BeWelcome will write to you on the email address you provided. You can unsubscribe from almost all notification ; but some stuff, like password recovery, cannot be unsubscrided from. You must agree to that. sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 00:16:39 +0200
  • Since there is a separate Privacy Policy, is it really necessary to give details about which information is collected, how it is used and which privacy options are available to the members in the ToU too? Instead I would suggest a very short paragraph about the importance of privacy and a link to the Privacy Policy. How about something like this: "Your privacy is very important to us. We designed a Privacy Policy to inform you about which data BeWelcome collects and how your content and information is used. We encourage you to read the Privacy Policy and to use it to make informed decisions regarding the privacy options we offer."(phrasing partly taken from Facebook's ToU). sitatara - Mon, 01 Oct 12 17:42:51 +0200
    • +1: Move that to PP and replace with: Check out our PP to see if you agree with it too.
    • +1: Maybe add 'As a community driven organization...' in the beginning? claudiaab - Fri, 12 Oct 12 08:37:02 +0200
  • ...as otherwise required or permitted by law. + However, we will warn you in case such transfer were to occur = When justice demands confidential data from us, we tell the people involved. sitarane - Mon, 08 Oct 12 11:54:42 +0200

Comments about 3. Liability

  • record their travels Record? Remove that. sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 00:16:39 +0200
  • Even though we hope to meet your requirements, we do not warrant any information provided on the site to be accurate and reliable at any relevant time, to meet your expectations, to offer error-free, uninterrupted and fast service. Patronizing. Seriously, this documents sounds like the voice of God is screaming it from above the clouds. Suggestion: You understand that we don't run the Interwebs. We can't guarantee to be 100% accurate and reliable at any relevant time, to meet your expectations, to offer error-free, uninterrupted and fast service. sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 01:39:10 +0200

Comments about 4. General Conduct

  • You agree that you shall not Talking about the voice of God... To humanize a bit, I'd start the clause like this: You agree not to do bad things. We trust you already have a good idea of what that is, but here are a couple of example of what you agree not to do on BeWelcome: sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 01:39:10 +0200
  • What is the point of that clause? interfere with or disrupt (or attempt to interfere with or disrupt) this Service or servers, through, including, but not limited to, the use of viruses, cancel bots, Trojan horses, harmful code, flood pings, denial-of-service attacks, packet or IP spoofing, forged routing or electronic mail address information or similar methods or technology . Like anyone is gonna do that and then be all like "Hey! It didn't say I couldn't do it on the ToS!". I don't see how having a clause like that will actually help in preventing hacks? If we're looking at this clause as a good reason to boot a user we caught doing that, we can probably use another clause. But let's not fool ourselves. We won't catch them, and even if we do, kicking them from the service will be no use. KIS KIS. Remove. sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 01:30:17 +0200
  • "(b) provide any information to BeWelcome that is false or misleading, that would otherwise hide your identity or that you do not have the right to disclose". What does "otherwise hide your identity" mean? What would be an example of such information? polyglot - Sun, 10 Feb 13 22:36
    • Example: A 60 year old guy has a profile picture of a 20 year old and generally tries to give the impression of being somebody else. (This doesn't mean people are not allowed to have pictures of others as their profile picture but if the general impression is definitely misleading, that's a different story and should not be accepted/supported). - sitatara - Thu, 18 Jul 13 14:35:05 +0200
  • I think this section should be of a more practical nature and include those regulations which allow spam control, safety team and forum moderators to act.If it becomes to vague, these teams have absolutely no regulations to base their work on. When are we allowed to ban a profile/remove contents from the website? What is the basis for that? - sitatara - Thu, 18 Jul 13 14:35:05 +0200
    • In this sense, I am missing some regulations: What about dating spam, profiles which are obviously created for the purpose of finding sexual partners, unsolicited private messages with absolutely no relation to the purpose of BeWelcome which members often consider as spam, and what about people asking for donations for other projects than BeWelcome? - sitatara - Thu, 18 Jul 13 14:35:05 +0200
  • Strong regulations against trolling should be explicitly stated in the ToU, because of the damage they do pablobd - Thu, 15 Aug 13 23:33:36 +0200

Comments about 5. Content

  • contains offensive language or images : If someone posts anything else than text or images (video, sound recording, links to bad content), he gets through this. Refrain from listing, replace with content sitarane - Sat, 06 Oct 12 10:42:35 +0200
    • I believe the current wording is fine as video contains images and audio would mainly be offensive through language. polglot - Sun, 10 Feb 13 22:48
  • Is missing an essential requirement: that you give BW an license to reproduce, display, perform, adapt ..... the contens for the purposes of the site, until the account will be active, excluding any commercial use. otherwise technichally you could not even resize pictures. leoalone - Wed, 26 Sep 12 13:27:22 +0200
    • +1 sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 01:52:07 +0200
    • ppec. Mm, rather disagree. "reproduce, display, perform, adapt ..... the contens" This part of the CS Terms of Use is the one which has provoked the biggest freaking out I've witnessed on CS. "Reproduce, perform, adapt"... Some have thought that they might find their pictured head (and who knows what else :-DD) displayed, performed and adapted into some porn material! If the problem is to resize images, then, this should be written : "you give to BW a license to resize your images for the purposes of the site, until the account will be active, excluding any commercial use" Resizing if a very tiny and harmless part of "adapting", and for some people, resizing is the maximum adaptation they are OK to allow
      • I don't follow the CS show, but isn't it rather the bit about "universal, perpetual and commercial licence on your content" bit that was objected. Just claiming resizing would limit future feature that would do other things. Cropping, aggregating. We could replace "for the purpose of this site" on leoalone's proposition with "within this site" if you're afraid of pictures ending up somewhere else (T-shirt). What possible missuse of leoalone's proposition do you see (keeping in mind bewelcome doesn't claim a perpetual commercial licence)? sitarane - Fri, 05 Oct 12 22:06:17 +0200
        • "I don't care that much about images. I rather feel concerned about writings: outed of its context, a written content can mean completely the opposite of what it genuinely meant: just crop and aggregate speechs of Hitler on one hand, and Dalaï Lama's one on the other hand, and if you've done a good job, Hitler might sound extremly peacefull, far more than this mountain Bully all dressed in red! So in general, I think that people shoulnd't the used to accept that their content is cropped and agregated -especially when it is not really needed. Is it really? ppec - Fri, 05 Oct 12 22:40:37 +0200
          • reproduce, perform, display and commit small adaptation such as resizing or formatting, without affecting the intended meaning of the content? sitarane - Mon, 08 Oct 12 12:27:54 +0200
  • may be protected by copyright and should not be uploaded... > may be protected by copyright and you are the one responsible for checking that is is not, or that you get the relevant licence. sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 01:39:10 +0200
    • that's obvious KIS claudiaab - Fri, 28 Sep 12 09:45:30 +0200
  • Maybe it should explicitly say here what the consequences are if someone posts such content. Usually, the first step will not be exclusion or is it? How about adding something along the lines of: "We can remove any content or information you post on BeWelcome if we believe that it violates these terms or our policies. If you repeatedly violate these terms, we will disable your account when appropriate and provide you with an opportunity to appeal." (similar to some phrases on Facebook) Apart from that I think what is missing in the list is: "private or personal information about another person, unless such person has agreed to the disclosure of this information" (taken from CS) and "commercial communications (such as spam)" (taken from Facebook). As for the existing entries I think (c) and (d) are way too broad. Would you really like to have the possibility to censor every political incorrect joke or the use of the f-word? That seems quite repressive. Instead I would specify things that will definitely not be tolerated. Example from facebook: "You will not post content that: is hate speech, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence." With this phrasing you could definitely still censor extremely discriminatory contents but not everything you do not like. Personally, I would drop the nudity from that phrase. I know that it's a problem in some countries but better make sure people can express themselves in their profiles than have guests being totally shocked by nudity once they arrive at their host's place. This phrase would also cover parts of (b) and (e). For all things that are against the law (French law applies?), i.e. (a) and parts of (b), I believe that one paragraph would be enough, for example: "You will not post content on BeWelcome that violates the law." (wording from Facebook) Add examples if you think that should be clearer. sitatara - Mon, 01 Oct 12 17:42:51 +0200
    • Thinking about this some months later, I believe that we should really make it transparent here what happens if a user violates these regulations (and those listed in "General Conduct") and where he/she can "appeal" against deletions/bans. - sitatara - Thu, 18 Jul 13 14:35:05 +0200
  • Do we need anything else than "that is against the law"? This list is extremely intolerant! I qualify for ToS breach just by fucking using offensive language (oops, guess we need to delete my profile now). "nudity" is extremely vague, "characterizes the use of drugs are acceptable", off with all our Dutch users. "We are a very religious family and would only like to host people that are of our faith" Out! These are way over the top. Why do we need them? sitarane - Fri, 28 Sep 12 01:52:07 +0200
    • I think the list is good and necessary. 'against the law' - WHICH law? - the safety team should have some leverage... I don't want to be tolerant when it comes to racism, I don't want to have bw turn into a sex site or even only stumble across some sex profiles even though it is not against the law. and as to the use of language, please remember that not all our members are used to offensive language and might not feel comfortable by the extensive use of it claudiaab - Fri, 28 Sep 12 09:45:30 +0200
    • Ok, I agree that there needs to be something else than "agains the applicable law". But this list is bad. This is the list of things that we do not allow to take place. That, when it does, it qualifies the user for exclusion. And it's way too broad. If we were to enforce it, we'd need to delete a significant part of our userbase. And if we don't enforce the ToU, then what use do we have for it? "libel" is already covered by laws, we don't need to be redundant. Ok for pornography, but nudity is way to broad. Restricting discrimination is against freedom of speech and not enforceable. I moderated "international politics" group in CS, and, really, it is simply impossible to draw the line. "offensive" is just way way too broad. We can kick anyone just for using all caps with that. Glorifying violence or drug is too interpretable too. sitarane - Sun, 30 Sep 12 12:51:50 +0200
    • I am EXTREMLY against anything refering vaguely and generaly to "the applicable law". What is the applicable law? The applicable law in WHERE? And if it would refer to FRENCH law, how are non-French members supposed to get to know it? By the way, what if French law starts to stink? I can only reject very strongly any GENERAL and passively-all-accepting mention of "the applicable law"!! ''' ppec Thu, 4 oct 12 19:04
      • Generally agree. "Respect the law" kind of goes without saying, it's not our job to remind it to everyone. Removing the law, and adding something we forgot: shocking content. Snuff is not illegal to post maybe. And while I wouldn't want to make "offensive" illegal, traumatisingly shocking should get you the boot. sitarane - Fri, 05 Oct 12 21:57:20 +0200
  • Replacement suggestion: "And, in order to keep the right atmosphere to BeWelcome, you agree not to post stuff that (a) contains pornography or sexually explicit content, (b) contains traumatising content"
  • Shall we add a non-dating clause too? pablobd - Fri, 28 Jun 13 22:01:48 +0200

Comments about 6. General

  • "I don't like the last sentence, because it is not fair towards our users to change terms without notice. I would like to change it into : "BeVolunteer reserves the right to amend tese terms as seen appropriate. Important changes that influence the way you use BeWelcome will always be communicated through mail, newsletter (if you signed up to receive this) or on the front page blog". thorgal67 - Sun, 23 Sep 12 21:38:41 +0200
  • "I second this. However, I would not go with a wording like 'important changes', either, but guarantee a notification for any change (beyond typo corrections). This still shouldn't happen often. Isn't that even required by law, anyway?" jsfan - Mon, 24 Sep 12 08:35:08 +0200
    • +1 sitatara - Mon, 01 Oct 12 17:42:51 +0200
  • "I agree that every changes of the terms should be communicated before" matthias - Mon, 24 Sep 12 20:12:39 +0200
  • i would add "The new terms would apply only after 30 days of the date they are posted on the services. leoalone - Wed, 26 Sep 12 13:27:22 +0200
  • SUGGESTIONS: BeVolunteer reserves the right to amend these terms as seen appropriate without prior notice. > BeVolunteer reserves the right to amend these terms, but will do so in the usual open and democratic way, and will most definitely warn you at least 30 days in advance of the change.
  • My suggestion: "BeWelcome reserves the right to amend these Terms as seen appropriate but will inform of any changes by email and by posting to the homepage 30 days before they take effect." polyglot - Sun, 10 Feb 13 23:06
  • My suggestion: "In case of change of ToU, you will be notified before loging in", when the user logs in, he should read the ToU, and clic again the "I agree" button. beatnickgr - Sun, 24 Feb 13 17:10
  • I think we should also have a part about 'termination'
    • we can delete a user account due to breach of ToU
    • you can delete your account (what will be stored / how long etc.) claudiaab - Wed, 10 Oct 12 10:39:15 +0200
      • +1 sitatara - Fri, 12 Oct 12 09:08:03 +0200
      • +1 pablobd - Thu, 15 Aug 13 23:33:36 +0200
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