Berlin Winter Camp 2008

flohfish

posted 2008/10/04 00:18 Visibility: World

Hello people out there!

Berlin Couchsurfing/HospitalityClub/BeWelc

ome community has something to
announce:

Germany’s capital is going to host this year’s WinterCamp - in the tradition of
cities like Vilnius (LT) - 2004, Rīga (LV) - 2005, Warszawa (PL) - 2006 and
İstanbul (TR) - 2007!!!

Detailed information about the event is going to be released on our website
whose address will be published soon.

The event will take place from the 28th December 2008 until the early morning
hours of the 2nd January 2009 in a location called HomeBase Lounge in the heart
of Berlin close to Potsdamer Platz.

As a legal requirement the number of participants of the Berlin WinterCamp will
be limited to 450 people.

To make sure the event is not going to be overrun by Berliners only we will
reserve 250 tickets for people from abroad, 50 of those for a limited period for
people who require a visa.

People will be able to register for the camp as soon as the website is online
but keep in mind that you will only have a space guaranteed after you have paid
the required participation fee. Please make sure that you won’t book your travel
ticket until your space at the Camp is guaranteed!!!
Please keep in mind:
People younger
than 18 years have to leave the location each night prior to 0:00 o'clock if not
accompanied by a guardian!!!

The participation fee for the 6 days will be 35 € which includes 20 € of free
drinks at the bar:
0,33l Pils: 2,80€;
0.2l Red/White Wine: 3,50€;
0,33l Soft Drinks: 2,50€;
0,25l Mineral Water: 2,-€.

This 20 € is due to the fact
that we don’t need to pay a rent for the location but have to guarantee a
minimum revenue of 9.000 € within the five days.

The hosting of the participants will be done by
the Berlin community for which we will set up a system.

Even though we have a limit of 450 people
for the location the limit will not necessarily count for activities and
workshops outside of HomeBase Lounge.

The BWC team:
Anreas (ANDREAST00 - CS)
Florian (flohfish - HC/CS/BW)
Isa (isabolita - HC/CS
Jana (shakti2000 - HC/CAZZANDRA13 - CS)
Oliver (otupman - HC/CS)
Paul (transmit - HC/CS)
Paul (PAULB23 - CS)

flohfish

posted 2008/10/09 22:07 Visibility: World

Text version for CS

The Berlin WinterCamp 2008 team is pleased to announce that you can sign-up & pay via Bank Transfer <b>or</b> a credit or debit card, or by PayPal. This is our temporary procedure while we put the finishing touches to our official website. Once it's on-line, we will direct you that rather than this system.

How to apply:

1) Begin the WinterCamp 2008 sign-up process. Sign-up from this link: http://www.dts-workshop.com/bwc/pay.php

2) Within a short while you'll receive an e-mail. The e-mail will contain a link to a page that will instruct you on how to pay by your preferred method.

3) Using your chosen payment method, ensure that you pay the 35EUR, including the confirmation code that you are given.

4) You will receive a confirmation e-mail once your payment has been received.

5) You will receive another e-mail later on with your web-site sign-in details (if the website is live, please don't sign-up to it yet!).

Note: Your bank may charge a fee for a transfer (especially if you are not in a Euro currency zone). You are responsible for covering charges. Also, if you are not in a Euro currency zone, it is your responsibility to calculate the correct exchange rate. If you are unsure about charges or exchange rates, please ask your bank.

<p>
So what are you waiting for? Begin the sign-up process here: http://www.dts-workshop.com/bwc/pay.php !
</p>

Berlin WinterCamp 2008, 5 days of fun, workshops, events, chatting & parties! 28th Dec 2008 to 2nd Jan 2009.

BWC Group on CS: http://www.couchsurfing.com/group.html?gid=14182
Read flohfish's annoucement: http://www.dts-workshop.com/bwc/announcement.php
Read the FAQs: http://www.dts-workshop.com/bwc/faqs.php"

crumbking

posted 2008/10/13 08:38 Visibility: World

Great to see the Berlin crew organizing this huge winter camp for this year. For all you guys who never celebrated on a winter camp... this is your chance... The funniest parts are the host pre-partys as you will probably sleep with 10 other guys somewhere in Berlin.

Ula!

crumbking ;)

crumbking

posted 2008/11/08 10:29 Visibility: World

Just for all of you who didn't noticed yet.

The BWC Crew opened a website about the process of the organisation and the way to participate as a volunteer or just simply how to attend the party.

Check out: http://www.berlinwintercamp.org/

crumbking

morillo

posted 2008/11/10 11:54 Visibility: World

35 euro sounds a lot...

I like the idea, but this sounds to elitist ...

so maybe next time...

lupochen

posted 2008/11/10 13:11 Visibility: World

@morillo: I thought the same but it seems they have to cover some costs for new Years and the rooms to meet up. Still I would like to see some alternative meeting during WinterCamp. Some parts (I heard) will be open to not-registered-attendees anyway and there's no reason why we shouldn't meet up anyway!

morillo

posted 2008/11/10 19:36 Visibility: World

yes, that would be nice, if there would be some meetings at the same time, where people meet up just for a couple of hours. Because my family lives in Berlin, and I really would like to join this camp for a day, or something... so what do you think will be free for everyone?

lupochen

posted 2008/11/10 22:11 Visibility: World

I'm not 100% sure.

There was a statement in this forum discussion where I ran into trouble:
http://www.couchsurfing.com/group_read.html?gid=14182&post=1837715#gpid1837715

But it's not clear yet what exactly will be open and what not - as far as I'm informed. But I'm sure, flofish knows better.

cheers
Micha

crumbking

posted 2008/11/11 10:05 Visibility: World

I agree with you morillo. 35 € for 5 days doesn't sound that much for 5 days but maybe for one night it will be a lot!

Yes, but you still have to pay the full 35€?."

I know the financial risk is quite hard in Berlin but a flexible payment (7per day) would suit to us the HC/CS/BW travel buddies much more ...

Out of my own experience with camps (BBC, Klöden) there is a small abuse rate with a flexible payment system (like ohh i pay just for one night, but will come back tomorrow morning to pay the rest ;)

I havn't registerd yet for 2 reasons:

I can't see attendees (need to register on the camp page, why?)

My plans are not 100% sure .. and the camp will be full in a couple of weeks anyway ;)

greets

crumbking

RETIRED_3497

posted 2008/11/12 02:02 Visibility: World

It's a pity that registration for the Berlin camp is limited to just a few hundred people. That prevents most of the European community as it now stands from even thinking about going.

I think there was a major change in the philosophies of hospex sites when camps started becoming less attended. I joined CS at the 2005/06 HC/CS Winter Camp in Riga, and so I had an opportunity to learn about the values of the CS community directly from some of its most important activists. Now, most members sign up for hospex sites and just read the sketchy information on the front page, and think they know what the site is all about with getting that personal direction from older members.They may go to local meetings, but often those meetings are organized by people who themselves have never been to camps.

If people could still get some introduction to the community from camps, you wouldn't be hearing crazy things like "CS/HC/BW isn't about free accomodation at all" (in Riga, everyone was honest that hospex is about free accomodation, but with great extra benefits like possible friendship and cultural exchange). New members would learn to be more tolerant of hitchhiking, soft drug use, or hook-ups, because those are all visible at camps.

flohfish

posted 2008/11/13 13:51 Visibility: World

Actually:

35 euro means 15 euro for entrance and 20 euro which you get back in vouchers for drinks.

we dont pay rent but had to promise to let 9000 euro at the place.

9000/450 participants is 20 euro each

so, we have 15 euro real entrance.

divided through 5day it is 3 euro each day.

and we have a lot of costs:

security, license to play music, insurance, money for workshops, renting projectors etc.

and of course we need some money for our own security cause calculations are always vague!

everything we have left over ge gonna give away to some organisations we still have to choose!

flohfish

posted 2008/11/13 13:55 Visibility: World

@ crculver

I didn't want to organize this years wintercamp but as no other city got active I said let's do it before the tradition dies!

it would have been nice if we could say, it doesn't matter how many people will come, but the only room available we could find has an maximum capacity of 450. Thats the only reason!!!

flohfish

posted 2008/11/13 13:57 Visibility: World

@ crumbking

You can see the attendence list if you register on the webpage - you don't need to register for the payment process for that!

flohfish

posted 2008/11/13 13:58 Visibility: World

and one thing more:

all workshops outside of the club are open for everybody.

the 450 is the limit for the club!

morillo

posted 2008/11/13 15:09 Visibility: World

@flofish,

can you maybe post a link with all the workshops which are not in the club, witch can be joined by everybody...

thanks

flohfish

posted 2008/11/14 12:09 Visibility: World

http://www.berlinwintercamp.org/volunteer

flohfish

posted 2008/11/20 16:06 Visibility: World

(Deutsche Fassungfolgt hinter der Englischen)

Berliners, Berliners, we - and 250 people from out of town - need you!

This New Year, over two hundred people from all over the world are coming to
Berlin to see YOU and YOUR City. They joined hospitality exchange clubs for the
same reason you did - to encounter new places, peoples, languages, food and
drink through the people who live there.

They have taken an emotional, intellectual, physical choice in the hope that you
feel the same as them, - *are* the same as them. They need *you*, - to
rediscover this great city together, to share a house together, to drink
together, to make friends and bring in the New Year together.

So where are you?

Not sure how to sign-up and pay? No worries, head over to
www.berlinwintercamp.org/user/register and sign-up. Now you're on the website.
Pay? No worries again, you can by pay by credit/debit card, PayPal, bank
transfer or by cash in-person to me or otupman at Berlin hospex events! Just
sign into the website and hit www.berlinwintercamp.org/payment and you're
starting our payment process!

In fact, members of the organiser team will be back at Belushi's on Friday
evening to answer your questions, talk about volunteering, and - of course - to
sign you up!

Worried that you're taking a space from a non-Berliner? Don't! Until we have
enough Berliners to host a large percentage of the people from out of town, we
can't let anyone else in!

But... saying that ... you're running out of time. The BWC team is sorry to
announce that you have until December 1st to make your decision. At that point
we will open a number of remaining spaces to *everyone*. And believe us, as soon
as the non-Berliners hear that, they'll be on them like flies. So hurry up!

Planning to travel in 2009? Why not make things easier for yourself and meet
some potential hosts for your travels. We have people coming from Finland,
Lithuania, Poland, Russia,.... etc. Show them a good time in Berlin and they
will surly return the favour when you visit them.

Not sure why it's 35EUR? 20EUR of that is free drinks at the bar of the venue
that we have! The rest, 15EUR for *five* days, covers all our other expenses -
security, music licensing, insurance, etc.

If you don't plan on attending WinterCamp, you can still help by hosting one or
more of our visitors! Have a look at the list of visitors to see who needs a
host "http://www.berlinwintercamp.org/surfers". Many, many visitors are looking
for Berlin hosts! You can also register for the site without committing to
attending WinterCamp and use all of the features of the WinterCamp website:
individual profile pages, hosting system, blogs, forums, up to date news, etc.
When signing up on the site, just enter the code "webonly" in the passport ID
field and you will be registered for the web site but not for the WinterCamp
event (though you can change this at any time by making a payment up until we
run out of available spaces).

Want to come? Got more questions? Confused?

Ask! You can reply here - the BWC organiser team are ever-present!

Even better, sign-up to the BWC website and then head over to our forums and ask
a question there.

Want the personal touch? e-mail us on registration@berlinwintercamp.org ! Or
just just send us a BW message!

No question too large, no request too silly, no offer for buying us drinks ever
denied ;)

The Berlin WinterCamp 2008 team, and those 250 people from out of town, would
love to see you.

An alle Berliner – wir und 250 Besucher aus aller Welt brauchen euch!

Über Neujahr kommen über zweihundert Surfer aus aller Welt nach Berlin, um euch
und eure Stadt kennen zu lernen. Sie wollen, genau wie ihr, neue Orte, Leute,
Sprachen und Speisen erleben - und zwar das echte Berlin mit Einheimischen, die
dort leben.

Schon seit 6 Wochen läuft die Registrierung für das Berlin WinterCamp 2008.

250 Gäste aus aller Welt sind bereits registriert, sie haben ihre
Teilnahmegebühr bezahlt und die Reise gebucht.

Sie haben sich ganz bewusst entschieden, zu *euch* zu kommen, in der Hoffnung,
dass ihr sie freudig empfangt - und dass ihr genauso seid wie sie. Sie brauchen
*euch*, um diese tolle Stadt gemeinsam zu entdecken, ein Zuhause zu teilen,
zusammen zu feiern, Freundschaften zu schließen und gemeinsam in das Neue Jahr
2009 zu rutschen.

Also - wo seid ihr?

Vielleicht noch unsicher, wie man sich registriert?
Kommt einfach auf unsere Website! Dort registriert ihr euch unter
www.berlinWinterCamp.org/user/register.

Jetzt habt ihr schon Zugang zu allen Informationen über das WinterCamp.

Und wie bezahlt man?
Ganz einfach: Den Zahlungsvorgang leitet ihr ein über
www.berlinWinterCamp.org/payment
Dann könnt ihr per Banküberweisung, Kreditkarte oder PayPal bezahlen oder
natürlich auch in bar bei mir oder otupman bei einem Berlin hospex-Event.

Am Freitag wird das Organisationsteam erneut im Belushi’s am
Rosa-Luxemburg-Platz sein. Dort könnt ihr eure Fragen stellen, euch als
freiwilligen Helfer melden, eure Ideen einbringen und ihr könnt euch natürlich
auch registrieren!

Ihr befürchtet vielleicht, jemandem von auswärts den Platz wegzunehmen?
Kein Grund zur Sorge! Solange wir nicht eine ausreichende Anzahl Berliner
Gastgeber haben, können wir keine weiteren auswärtigen Teilnehmer zulassen.

Allerdings – eure Zeit läuft ab!

Bis spätestens zum 01. Dezember müsst ihr euch dafür entschieden haben, euch
beim Berlin WinterCamp zu registrieren und den Zahlungsvorgang einzuleiten.
Danach wird ein Teil der für euch reservierten Plätze freigegeben. Und diese
werden garantiert im Nu an auswärtige Interessenten vergeben sein, die schon in
den Startlöchern hocken und auf diese Freigabe lauern.
Los! Beeilt euch und macht mit!

Ihr wollt im Jahr 2009 sicher verreisen? Dann macht euch das Leben einfach und
trefft schon jetzt die Hosts für eure nächsten Trips! Es kommen Surfer aus
Irland, England, Russland, Frankreich … etc. Bereitet ihnen eine tolle Zeit hier
in Berlin, und beim Rückbesuch bei eurem Surfer werdet ihr dafür herzlich
willkommen geheißen!

Warum das WinterCamp 35 EUR kostet? – 20 EUR davon sind Getränkegutscheine für
die HomeBase. Die restlichen 15 EUR sind für fünf Tage Musik, Versicherung,
Sicherheitsdienst, etc.

Schon andere Pläne für Silvester? Klasse! Wir wünschen euch viel Spaß und einen
guten Rutsch!
Aber vielleicht wollt ihr dennoch Teilnehmer des WinterCamps hosten! Wenn ihr
euch auf der Website registriert, könnt ihr euch in der Hosting Section die
Teilnehmer ansehen, die noch eine Couch zum Surfen suchen.
Wählt euch den perfekten Surfer aus! Geht einfach auf die Leute zu, die ihr
kennen lernen wollt!

Stellt eure Fragen! – Einfach hier, die BWC-Organisatoren sind stets präsent!
Oder kommt auf unsere Site www.berlinWinterCamp.org
Auch dort sind wir – und dazu natürlich unsere Teilnehmer! Wenn ihr Euch
registriert, könnt ihr sogar das Forum nutzen!
Natürlich könnt ihr uns auch eine private Nachricht schicken an
registration@berlinWinterCamp.org.

Keine Frage ist zu umfangreich, keine Bitte zu dumm, und auf einen Drink lassen
wir uns stets gerne einladen ;)

Die Organisatoren des Berlin WinterCamp 2008 und 250 Gäste von auswärts brennen
schon darauf, sich mit euch zu treffen!

flohfish and the rest of the BWC 2008 team

fabzgy

posted 2008/11/22 11:06 Visibility: World

Available translations:[Original de] [en]

hey Flohfish. We are not on CS/HC here.

On BeWelcome you are able to translate your posts. So no need for writing them twice in the same post.

Fabian

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