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BeWelcome has a new decision making process

written by thorgal67 - 2013/07/18 22:11

Thanks to everyone who participated in the voting about BeWelcome's decision making process! The result is that BeWelcome has, as of today, a new decision making process: (detailed results below).

To put this process into practice, our development volunteers will now work on implementing the required tools with priority. 

At the same time we need to build a "Suggestions Team". If you would like to volunteer for that team, please apply through the contact form.

Detailed results:

We are especially happy about the high number of votes among the BeWelcome members! Before the voting started, only 28 people had participated in the discussion about this topic in the BeWelcome forum. The voting shows that far more people were interested in this issue and in being involved in the decision.

Thanks to all the volunteers who made this possible.




percentage of voters...

written by karo - 6 years ago (i)
... among BeVolunteers: 30%

Thank you very much for the detailed chart BW provides for its members :)
I am still wondering a bit about the participation in the voting among the volunteers of BW. I know there is holiday season currently, so many of them may be off for some time... Perhaps it is only me but I expected at least two-thirds of BVer to vote. I think that, when it comes to vote about a more democratic framework for BW, volunteers should act as a model for the rest of the community. Just imagine a turnout of 30% at the next federal election (coming soon!)
Nonetheless 30% is more than 1,7%, luckily.

written by paivisanteri - 6 years ago (i)
That amount of options and statistics are a nerds wet dream. If could have been simply:

Old system: blahblahblah

New system: blahblahblah

Replace old system with new? [YES/NO]

Now it took quite a lot of time to even understand the voting and what are the options. A more simple system might also improve participation ratings. Anyway, thanks for that!


written by Meelis - 6 years ago (i)
I think the percentages are quite okay for the start!


written by davidurmann - 6 years ago (i)
I think its a little confusing as well. A simple Yes/No would have been more clear.

well you know...

written by SOBIE - 6 years ago (i)
@paivisanteri & coolkodiak & davidurmann.
Well you know that without a detailed report some "wet nerds" are going to start a 200+ post thread about the "credibility of democracy" on BW, and other such topics, until they will force the "new decision making process" to be used to vote on an independent "dry nerd" to overlook the next voting process....
I think it's better we surrender unconditionally...where do I sign ? ;)

one point seven

written by Marcell - 6 years ago (i)
1.7 per cent (voters among members) sounds like nothing to me, especially if you think of that a democracy works when people use their vote. I don't know much about democracy but I think this is fairly obvious :)
and one reason for that tiny percentage might be that it was indeed somewhat complicated to go through (and comprehend) the long 'nerd's wet dream' – but well on the other hand I think that's what politics are, nerd's wet dreams :)

written by amnesiac84 - 6 years ago (i)
You'd have to consider that almost 60% didn't login for the last 6+ months, that there are some/many unused accounts made in the last months, that some/many people just don't care how decisions are being made as long as the site is running. And of course there are some/many that found it too difficult.
I don't know how many people you expected to vote, but this is more or less the amount I expected. Democracy works best if more people show interest, get informed, discuss and eventually vote, and that's exactly why I think it's good this decission came through. In order to make it more possible to do all that, and to make everything less complicated.


written by francisedwin33 - 6 years ago (i)
I did not recieve any mail for the voting process. If i had recieved a mail, i would definetly voted.

I would definetly like to recieve mails on BWelcomes future.

Yours truly.

written by guaka - 6 years ago (i)
Democracy requires text (or blahblah as paivi calls it :) and time, and concentration.

Overall I think more than 700 people is quite a good turnout for this.

I'm personally not so sure if it's the best way to get to a great website, I'm more a fan of anarchist adhocracy/do-ocracy, especially when it comes to keeping developers and other techies happy to work on BeWelcome. So I'm not sure if this is the best way to ever get cool features.

But also given the now almost 50k members I'm pretty confident BeWelcome will be a stable hospitality exchange organization with a somewhat slow but steady progression towards improvements. Which is nice, definitely better than having to deal with the whims of VC money or a website that hasn't changed in a decade.

written by mdbrot - 6 years ago (i)
1,70% is a good start
I had received the email
I liked the transparency of all the process (hail to staff member)

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